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DocJ · Veteran Poster (Pots the first red)

Scoring system in the Abingdon League

the apprentice · Veteran Poster (Potting like a demon)

If people want change they should bother to turn up to the AGM!

Keep it how it is...do we really want it like all the Oxford leagues scoring system? Gets a bit "samey"

Barney · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

the apprentice wrote:
do we really want it like all the Oxford leagues scoring system? Gets a bit "samey"

The four Oxford leagues all operate different scoring systems.

Super Midget CCCC · Regular Poster (Wins the toss)

5x best of 3 matches with a point per winning frame ???

That way you only need 5 players in total which will probably then encourage more teams to enter ?

If not then maybe the same format?

the apprentice · Veteran Poster (Potting like a demon)

Barney wrote:

the apprentice wrote:
do we really want it like all the Oxford leagues scoring system? Gets a bit "samey"
The four Oxford leagues all operate different scoring systems.

Really?

What Oxford League operates a one-frame system then?

Barney · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

None of them. But they do each have different scoring systems.

the apprentice · Veteran Poster (Potting like a demon)

Ah fair enough. Structure is what I meant.

MING · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

Current system with 2 points for a win and a bonus point; awarded to winning team if scoring 10 or more or to losing team scoring 6 or more...

Milhouse · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

Super Midget CCCC wrote:

5x best of 3 matches with a point per winning frame ???

That way you only need 5 players in total which will probably then encourage more teams to enter ?

If not then maybe the same format?

Never going to happen.

The Abingdon has always had a format where you can have more than the bare minimum players to play, creating more people playing the game and having enough to cover holidays etc.

Milhouse · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

MING wrote:

Current system with 2 points for a win and a bonus point; awarded to winning team if scoring 10 or more or to losing team scoring 6 or more...

I was watching the Kennington-Oracle game last night and we were discussing something similar, but with 3 pts for the win.

MING · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

Should any change be proposed for the AGM I will present tables, based on this seasons results, showing how things would have looked using the different points systems suggested.

DocJ · Veteran Poster (Pots the first red)

Well, there we have it..........the masses (well, 8 of us!) have spoken. Although I can't say for sure that this is representative of the opinion of everyone in the Abingdon League, the numbers here clearly show that 75% of the voters would like to see a different scoring system in place to the one we currently have.

So, how do I go about proposing a change to be voted on at the AGM? And when is the AGM anyway?

Edit: Now 9 votes, so that's 78% against the current system!

-- Edited by DocJ on Thursday 17th of March 2011 01:14:58 PM

Beefy · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

Send it to Kevin he is the secretary with minimum of 7 days notice........

DocJ · Veteran Poster (Pots the first red)

Beefy wrote:

Send it to Kevin he is the secretary with minimum of 7 days notice........

Send what to Kev? A letter? An e-mail? Flowers with a message tucked inside?

How official does this have to be? Come on, Beefs......be a bit more helpful biggrin

MING · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

DocJ wrote:

Beefy wrote:

Send it to Kevin he is the secretary with minimum of 7 days notice........

Send what to Kev? A letter? An e-mail? Flowers with a message tucked inside?

How official does this have to be? Come on, Beefs......be a bit more helpful

Proposals to be emailed to me 7 days prior to the AGM (date TBC). They need to be proposed by one team and seconded by another.

Also helpful would be a brief explanation of the reasoning behind your proposal

-- Edited by MING on Thursday 17th of March 2011 01:32:56 PM

Beefy · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

Keys left in a tiz with 5 skeletons in the closet. Suffered at the hands of a teenager winning 3 and tomorrow he learns how to use a set square and petractor. So much for abingdon education.

He is offering lessons in how to play the white for those who r interested. Up the social

the apprentice · Veteran Poster (Potting like a demon)

Beefy wrote:

Keys left in a tiz with 5 skeletons in the closet. Suffered at the hands of a teenager winning 3 and tomorrow he learns how to use a set square and petractor. So much for abingdon education.

He is offering lessons in how to play the white for those who r interested. Up the social

Ok, did anybody understand that? Didn't even post the score ffs...

PoolQueen · Ultimate Poster (1-0 up in a best of 7)

I didn't understand much of it either Jamie. confuse

Firstly this is the wrong thread though to post results in and secondly what the hell is a petractor? I've heard of a protractor though. So much for Kennington education. hmm

Beefy · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

See you knew what I was talking about...............lol

underdog · Occasional Poster (Racking up the balls)

Beefy wrote:

Keys left in a tiz with 5 skeletons in the closet. Suffered at the hands of a teenager winning 3 and tomorrow he learns how to use a set square and petractor. So much for abingdon education.

He is offering lessons in how to play the white for those who r interested. Up the social

worst table and worst venue ever been too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when we got there the table rolled off atleast 4-6 inches then we got moaned at for trying to do somthing about it and in the mix of this the football lads had just won their leaue and didnt we know about it and you didnt help beefy by being drunk and not getting out of the way when people wanted to take a shot.putting all of that aside their were some good lads on the pool team that was meant to be there(i dont usualy moan on hrere but i felt this was taking tha pi** a little)

-- Edited by underdog on Monday 21st of March 2011 05:34:15 PM

Beefy · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

underdog wrote:

worst table and worst venue ever been too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when we got there the table rolled off atleast 4-6 inches then we got moaned at for trying to do somthing about it

Did you ask the home team to do something about it - before you started to change it yourselves ?

and in the mix of this the football lads had just won their leaue and didnt we know about it

Its a social club that they play for and to be fair they kept themselves to themselves, away from the table, ok they were singing but wouldn't you if you had just done what they did.

and you didnt help beefy by not getting out of the way when people wanted to take a shot.

Hold on a second I was SAT by the table under the television for most of the time except when SID talked me in to having a go on the machine by the jukebox. So r u saying I didn't move if someone asked me to ??????

Oh yeah maybe it was when they were short of players near the end to REF I was asked to cover one game whilst the other player went to the toilet

-- Edited by underdog on Monday 21st of March 2011 05:34:15 PM

underdog · Occasional Poster (Racking up the balls)

Beefy wrote:

underdog wrote:

worst table and worst venue ever been too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when we got there the table rolled off atleast 4-6 inches then we got moaned at for trying to do somthing about it

Did you ask the home team to do something about it - before you started to change it yourselves ?
Yes we did ask home team but the young lads didn't know how to.
and in the mix of this the football lads had just won their leaue and didnt we know about it

Its a social club that they play for and to be fair they kept themselves to themselves, away from the table, ok they were singing but wouldn't you if you had just done what they did.
Did you obviously miss them squeezing past the table for a fag then??? Nudging players?
and you didnt help beefy by not getting out of the way when people wanted to take a shot.

Hold on a second I was SAT by the table under the television for most of the time except when SID talked me in to having a go on the machine by the jukebox. So r u saying I didn't move if someone asked me to ??????
Hold on you were stood by the machine talking to Trafford! And when I (Charli) needed you to move so I could play a shot you would not move. You would be the first to complain if this was you!
Oh yeah maybe it was when they were short of players near the end to REF I was asked to cover one game whilst the other player went to the toilet
This is just a poor excuse. Come on Beefy you can do better than that!

-- Edited by underdog on Monday 21st of March 2011 05:34:15 PM

DocJ · Veteran Poster (Pots the first red)

Sounds like I missed a cracking night on Sunday then?

Milhouse · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

I am so sorry we play in a venue with a bit of atmosphere!

I think the fact that after each of your players played in the last leg, they left straight away was appauling, plus the fact that when i played last, i went to the toilet, when i had come out, my opponent had already broke and played a couple of shots!
Next time your team come to our venue, i shall tell them not to bother doing any food as none of you were left at the end of the match!

The Pool Shark · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

Sounds like another one of those good old friendly pool matches.... hmm

Milhouse · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

The Pool Shark wrote:

Sounds like another one of those good old friendly pool matches....

Once they stopped complaining about the table, the game was actually played in good spirits! Just their attitude towards the table and leaving as soon as they played is what stinks!

Beefy · Ultimate Poster (Breaks off in decider)

underdog wrote:
Hold on you were stood by the machine talking to Trafford! And when I (Charli) needed you to move so I could play a shot you would not move. You would be the first to complain if this was you!

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Oh yeah maybe it was when they were short of players near the end to REF I was asked to cover one game whilst the other player went to the toilet

This is just a poor excuse. Come on Beefy you can do better than that!
Don't need to do any better than that - its what happened ! ask Milhouse as he was the one that asked me to step in so he could have a comfort brake

MING · Ultimate Poster (2-0 up in a best of 7)

Oi Tossers....

Anymore "off topic" postings and I'm gonna deduct 10 points (per post) off your teams total for this season and next...

DocJ · Veteran Poster (Pots the first red)

OK then. I get the feeling that too many people would moan and groan about having too many players if the summer format was adopted, so it looks like the current system with 3 points for a win + bonus points is the one to go for........would any team second this proposal?

Oxpac · Regular Poster (Wins the toss)

DocJ wrote:
Well, there we have it..........the masses (well, 8 of us!) have spoken. Although I can't say for sure that this is representative of the opinion of everyone in the Abingdon League, the numbers here clearly show that 75% of the voters would like to see a different scoring system in place to the one we currently have.

So, how do I go about proposing a change to be voted on at the AGM? And when is the AGM anyway?

Edit: Now 9 votes, so that's 78% against the current system!

-- Edited by DocJ on Thursday 17th of March 2011 01:14:58 PM

You'll be voting Yes in the upcoming voting referendum then!! Interesting way of interpreting the stats (11 whole votes!), to me it shows three equally popular formats. By your definition there will be at least 72.7% of people unhappy with whatever system is chosen!

Personally I dont see the benefit of changing the current system. The current system perfectly represents the seasons performances and allows continued changes throughout the season, thus keeping the season alive longer for more teams.

The bonus point idea, will not benefit teams who take big early leads, eg if a team goes 10 - 0 up there will be little incentive to keep playing for either team (except for personal priorities; most wins etc) This is where the current system works so well, being that no matter what the score is the 15th frame is just as important as any other frame through the season.

The summer league style is good for summer as there are less players wanting to play each week, whereas for the winter the current system gives much greater flexibility for teams wanting to play with just five or play with much bigger squads, as many of the lower league teams do.

Kev - I dont suppose I need to propose that we keep everything the same!!